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Synastry and The Seventh House: Is This Person Marriage Material?

The essence of the 7th house is the sentiment engraved on these bands: Two become one.

The essence of the 7th house is the sentiment engraved on these bands: Two become one.

Today’s issue is brought to you by a client’s question, “Will we get married?”

This is one of the most basic questions I am asked to analyze, although from my perspective, the question is, perhaps, more accurately, “How likely is it that either or both will want to marry?” and, more importantly, will these two be able to stay married? 

The seventh house is known for being responsible for everything we think of as a “real” relationship, but what do we mean by this? What is a “real” relationship? What makes the 7th house relationship more “real” when it comes to marriage than the 5th house relationship, for example?

The Difference Between The Houses When It Comes To Defining Types of Relationships

The difference between the 5th house way of approaching relationships and the 7th, and what makes the 7th house more significant in many ways than the 5th, is that the 7th house focuses on togetherness and unity, cohesion and a sense of oneness. The seventh house tests your ability to take the other person’s needs seriously, adapt, live together, get married, sign papers together, buy furniture together—the key word being “together.” While the 5th house’s reputation is about fun and romance, the 7th is less about having “fun” and more about taking responsibility for the other person.

You sometimes see married people behaving like this, but it's more typical in the romantic 5th house-type relationship.

You sometimes see married people behaving like this, but it’s more typical in the romantic 5th house-type relationship (and there are some marriages like this!).

This is distinct from the 10th house‘s connection to marriage; that has more to do with one’s reputation and standing in the community, and is not focused on interpersonal relating as much as it has to do with showing the relationship’s public face to the world.

There’s a huge psychological difference between living with someone and marrying them. Everything changes once you’re in a committed “unit” type relationship, and planets in the 7th of someone’s natal will augment that message. Needless to say, (although we’ll say it anyway), planets in the natal 7th house represent the type of person who thinks a lot about what a relationship requires, although having planets in the 7th doesn’t necessarily incline the individual towards relationship. Much depends on what the planets are and how they’re aspected.

Focus On The 7th House To Determine Attitudes About Marriage

Since today’s chart question is “Will we get married?” we’re focusing on the 7th house in synastry, and asking “Is this person marriage material?” The “will we get married” question depends on a number of factors, of course. There isn’t enough time or room here to sufficiently analyze every detail of my answer, but one place we can begin with is each person’s 7th house, because the most important question we must always answer is, “How is this person likely to relate to his or her significant other?”

There are two specific things we can look for when we’re trying to assess how someone is likely to respond to the idea of marriage (true for men or women, but each person’s chart will influence the other’s in synastry, and that can be just as important to take into account as the individual natal chart).

The first detail to look at is the nature of the 7th house in each natal. Then  look at how the planets in Chart A’s 7th house fall into the house(s) of Chart B, and vice versa. Given the fact that it’s usually women who ask me “Will he and I get married?” we can take as a given that the person who asked the question in this case is female. She wants to know if a man she’s fond of, but doesn’t know intimately, will one day marry her.

Since the date of a marriage in this situation is, realistically, a long way off, let’s answer the most relevant question I have, which is, “To what extent are these two marriage material in the first place?”

Chart B (Man’s chart)

What We Expect And Do Not Expect To See In The Natal Affects Our Interpretation

First, I want to say that I like his chart for the purpose of illustrating some basics about what we think we know about astrology. This chart’s energy is very heavily weighted when it comes to relationships, in fact, with Pluto and Uranus in the 7th, and Saturn in the 1st in exact opposition to Pluto. The question with this man will be, with two such heavy planets in exact opposition, one forced to focus on itself (Saturn in the 1st), the other taking commitment, and the “other,” almost too seriously (Pluto in the 7th), how will he contend with the pushme-pullyou of that opposition? Will he, for one thing, use the excuse of Uranus in the 7th to run away and/or keep relationships on a surface level?

Further complicating that message is the conjunction of Uranus with the Descendent. Finding a planet exactly (or within 2-3 degrees) of an angle gives it energy and extra weight. In this case, Uranus and Mars are each conjunct the Descendent. When this man puts out energy towards a relationship, he doesn’t hold back, and generally goes full force for what he wants, with both Mars and Uranus there.

What Kind of Woman Attracts This Man?

However, that combination is forceful but erratic, and the woman he’s involved with will have to give him a great deal of space to make up his mind, at least at first. In this case, her Venus in the independent, self-willed sign of Aries falls in his second house, forming an out-of-sign conjunction with his Sun in Taurus. This is a significant connection between the two charts. The conjunction of a woman’s Venus with a man’s Sun is, traditionally, one of the best combinations you can hope for, and indicates a powerful feeling of affinity between the two of them. 

My belief is that, especially when he was younger, the strong 1st house/7th house opposition from Saturn to Pluto pulled this man back and forth when it comes to making commitments to something outside himself. At this point in his life, while it’s most likely he has dealt with the energy of the opposition in his chart for many years, in fact, he will most likely work out his ambivalence about what a relationship requires from him by getting involved with the type of woman who isn’t “too” interested in him. 

His ambivalence issues, expressed most obviously through both Uranus in the 7th (which tends to run away) and the Saturn/Pluto opposition, will find the woman who is also running away (at first) the most attractive. 

The next question is, what kind of woman will he likely want to marry?  Who will make this restless  man want to settle down? [As a side note, the issue of settling down, literally and figuratively, is always crucial when you see exact, or very close, oppositions in the chart. The energy of a strong opposition is usually very restless; if not physically, then mentally, because the individual is torn between two extremes of thought or behavior, trying to make first one side of the opposition "make sense," then the other. Integration with oppositions is key, and can literally take a lifetime to effect.]

Interpreting The Messages In Her Chart

Let’s now turn to her chart to see how his relevant planets affect hers, and how she receives his energy. Can she help him with his 7th house issues? Three strong planets at the Descendent, all of which are in opposition to Saturn, tell me that the idea of marriage, relating, and being in a committed relationship in general, are important to him, but that he also swings from Saturn’s taciturn outlook (self-sufficiency and not letting on to what’s going on inside him) to a deep need for a formal union, a commitment of some kind. With or without the wedding band, Pluto in the 7th is usually cautious, but deeply committed.

I’d be particularly concerned about suppression of strong emotion with a Saturn/Pluto opposition; Saturn/Mars means he’d swing between getting too involved too fast, and then pulling back; Saturn/Uranus is slow-and-steady versus showing up on your doorstep. So there is some volatility to be expected, but only some. The planets are all in Virgo, in opposition to the very sensitive Saturn in Pisces. Both signs are hyperaware of other people, although they are, neither of them, terribly articulate about relationships (particularly when Saturn is in Pisces involved in this series of oppositions).

A side note should be, he might have relevant transits to his 7th house/1st house planets. We shall see. This could be very important to change the dynamic here. The 1st/7th axis is all about self versus other, so this theme is crucial in his life in general, and if transits support change, then it’s very likely he will be willing to take on the responsibility of marriage.

Chart A (woman)

Chart A (woman)

A Stellium Affects The Synastry

The first thing we notice is that his Pluto/Uranus/Mars conjunction (a stellium—three or more planets all in one sign or house—in the sign of Virgo) falls in the woman’s 11th house. The challenge here is going to be that over time, her 5th and 11th houses (where his opposition falls in her chart) will have to adapt to his seriousness and ups and downs of behaviors.

It might be that he is not as romantic as her 5th house would like, since his Saturn falls there. He brings his 7th house intensity and potentially erratic nature to the section of her chart that deals with her hopes and dreams, in the 11th, and her romantic nature, in the 5th. So there is some room for concern here, if he’s not careful to control any tendency he has toward overdoing his Virgo stellium in opposition to Saturn in Pisces.

The key here, though, because our focus is on marriage, is how her 7th house planets fare in his chart. Her 7th house is very different in tone than his. Unlike him, with his Virgoan approach to committed relationships, she has Venus in the 7th, in Aries, combined with a conjunction to Mercury in Taurus. I’m not as concerned with aspects between the signs or planets (are Taurus and Virgo compatible, or are Aries and Virgo compatible, for example). What is of concern is how each person expresses their 7th house, and if their 7th houses are similar enough to make a go of marriage.

The 7th house cusp in Chart A has Aries on the Descendent, augmenting the nature of the Aries Venus. The feisty nature of Venus in Aries is modified somewhat by its out-of-sign conjunction with Mercury; this makes Venus in Aries much more thoughtful, usually. Her expression of 7th house values is going to be very different than his, however; there’s no getting around the dissimilarities between Virgo planets and Aries Descendent with Venus there.

If she can control her temper and her possible propensity to be quick with a comeback, put-down, or unasked-for advice, then it’s possible a man with strong Virgo planets will be charmed by her natural warmth, honesty, integrity, and sincerity. Nonetheless, his Virgo planets are quiet and pragmatic about marriage; her Venus in Aries would like to be swept off her feet just a little. There is a fundamental difference that probably won’t play well over time, especially when you take into account the nature of her 5th house, and the fact that his Saturn falls in the one house you do hope to see more light-hearted planets.

How Transits Will Affect The Relationship

What transits will affect these people? In 2013, Mars, the motivator, will affect the man’s chart twice; once from March to April, when it transits through Pisces (poking at his Saturn/Chiron in the 1st); the second transit that will affect his stellium in Virgo will be from October through November, when Mars will transit his 7th house. During these times, one could reasonably expect some sort of motivation and/or movement about relationship.

Throughout the year, transiting Chiron will conjunct his natal Saturn, so that will bring up some psychological issues for him. There’s no way to know for sure how he will handle that combination, or whether it will motivate him or have a dampening effect on his intentions, but Chiron over Saturn is a combination that implies learning a lesson about the self, so it could well be that this time for him will be quite profound and meaningful. It also implies, since the transit is through the 1st house, that he will take on a responsibility of some kind.

Her most significant transit in this situation will be to her Part of Marriage, as I will discuss.

The Role Of The Part of Marriage In Each Person’s Chart 

Finally, the woman’s Part of Marriage is in Scorpio, at 10˚ 41′. The man’s is 29˚ 03′ Aries. In October of 2013, a month that overlaps with the man’s chart being affected by Mars, the woman’s chart will have Saturn transit over her Part of Marriage, implying that, at the very least, marriage will be a serious subject in her life this coming year. The man’s Part of Marriage is conjunct his Sun, so there is every chance that he will want to marry, and that he defines himself through the act of marriage in a way that someone who does not have this conjunction does not. His energies throughout the course of his life will be devoted to, at the very least, understanding the nature of marriage.

The man has already had Saturn in opposition to his Sun (as it began its transit into Scorpio this past year) and that would have been the initial motivator for the question “Will we marry?” He might very well believe he has met the woman he will marry, given the timing of these transits. My overall assessment is that he takes marriage seriously, and may very well marry in this coming year. Saturn transiting over her Part of Marriage also says the same thing, but implies, as one would expect, that Saturn (symbolized by the man, who would be very serious, or at the very least, responsible and mature) will enter her life in this coming year.

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18 thoughts on “Synastry and The Seventh House: Is This Person Marriage Material?

  1. Hello Alison,

    Thank you for your well articulated analysis of the two horoscopes as it relates to the 7th house and partnership.

    I would like to add that the conjunction of Venus and Mercury in the 7th house of the female chart suggests a strong idealism about partnerships and his 1 degree Taurus Sun shines warmly to satisfy her mental/relational needs.

    In addition the female Aries descendant at 13 degrees rests nicely on his 11 degree Mercury which is the ruler of his 7th house giving further support to a partnership connection.

  2. He has a mutable grand cross, considering the Sagg SNode 10th and Gem NNode 4th. He enjoys ideas and new concepts that support his philosophical opinions. Her Aries DSC and Venus probably inspire him … get him out of his arm-chair, as it were. She has Sun-Saturn conjunct in 8th in Taurus. That’s as profound a manager of the Aries action, as her Mercury in Taurus. I sense both are well practised at self-discipline. Her Aquarian NNode stellium from 4th to 5th houses indicates psychological freedom; a capacity to adapt to the unusual, and with Mars there, to pursue it. With the Moon there, she enjoys intellectual analysis; the freedom of theory evolving. Aquarian and Virgoan and Aries energy works well together regarding “exploration” as a premise of relationship.

  3. Hallo Alison,

    your posts are really amazing to read.
    i hope, its ok to ask a question. if the progressed sun is going to build a conjunction to another persons natal sun and progressed venus to natal venus. which person feels which kind of impact?
    it would be great to hear a few words from you.

    thank you, and namaste,

    angelika, austria

    • Thanks for reading, and I’m glad you get something out of it.

      The progressed chart represents your inner world, your psychological realm, more than it represents anything “happening” to you–if something from the outside “happens”, as an event in your material, manifest world, it represents the extent to which the inner you has put out that energy into the outside world.

      Let’s say your progressed Sun is in 25 degrees Scorpio, conjuncting the other person’s natal Venus in 25˚ Scorpio. If you just met this person, this might tell me that there is something about that person’s Venus energy that has brought you to him or her to pick up what it is their Venus “does.” Her Venus expresses via Scorpio-style energy; there’s something there that you’re going to observe, feel, or respond to. Ultimately, if you spend enough time around that person, you’re going to understand their Venus in Scorpio energy; you might hang out with their group, or dress like them, use makeup the way they do; start believing in what they believe in, etc. What happens to you will be that your inner nature (your progressed Sun) will start to emulate (or reject, depending on aspects) this person’s values, since the Venus position also indicates personal values, how we live our lives based on what we believe in.

      Will the Venus person be affected? Of course she will. Never in these situations is only one person affected. She will receive your energy (since it’s your Sun, unless it’s heavily challenged by squares or oppositions or the quincunx aspect, 150˚) and will start to behave more Venusian, let’s say. Or she won’t; she might reject your Sun energy, feeling oppressed or dominated (the Sun is represented by Apollo in Greek mythology, who was classically dominating, a very masculine energy).

      You are developing an inner Sun quality as your Sun progresses through the degrees of whatever sign it’s in, and it’s my belief that this progressed quality does affect us, but usually in ways we’re not consciously aware of until one day we wake up and realise, oh, I’m behaving just like… and you look to see where your progressed sun is, and you recognize that behavior.

      If you need more detail, let me know. :-) And once again, thanks for reading!

      • thank you very much Alison, for your immediate answer. i do understand more now. and of course i am interested in understanding deeper, especially this relationship. but as you have written in one post, synastry and composites are very complex. the background of my question was, to get a feeling about the possible development of the relationship and to get an idea, wheather it is more one-sided or the interest to spend time and to learn from each other is both-sided. as its my progressed sun and my progressed venus that is going over his natal planets (sun over sun and at the same time venus over venus) the next couple of years, i was wondering, if i am the only one to learn from him, or, if he also can learn from my progressed planets over his natals.
        as you described, i think yes, he can also get something from me, because his natal north node is in cancer. and as i have a cancer sun travelling progressed travelling over his virgo sun, he can learn more about how it is being like a cancer. is that right?

        thank you,

        angelika

      • I’m trying to remember if I ever thought that only one person was affected by any transit or progressed planet on the other person’s planet. It’s just that I can’t remember ever thinking that way, so it’s hard for me to know how you are thinking, although I’ve seen this response quite often. I’m trying to determine where the idea comes from that only one person could ever possibly be affected; human relationships don’t work that way. In real life, if you put out energy, it comes back to you in some form. Maybe it’s just that people are so unaware so much of the time they just don’t recognize that a bad mood is picked up on by their significant other. I don’t know. Anyway, yes, if his whoosey is on your whatsit, both of you will feel that combination; to be honest, I’m not sure exactly how much it matters whose planet or node is involved, the energy goes back and forth. The effect has more to do with the fact that they are connected by aspect at all; it especially matters if the planets involved are already aspected in your natal. Let’s say, for example, that your Sun is in square to Moon in your chart. That Sun is going to affect your partner’s Sun very differently than if your Sun is in aspect to Venus. So, you are always bringing something to the relationship that you might not be completely aware of, but that’s still going to affect your partner. This is more important, ultimately, than anything in synastry, since you can only be responsible for your own personality. You can’t control anything else.

  4. i learned a lot about control since 2007 (more about the uncontrolability of anything and much more about the surrendering into letting go of…) since pluto in 2007 started to travel opposite my natal venus, mc, mars, squared my ac (and most effective conjuncted my ic). and as you can expect, uranus did his part to that journey since 2007 as he squared the planets at the same time and is now going opposite my ac and square mars/mc for the last time. with a natal saturn-square-venus and mars-square-ac and this moon-pluto-uranus-stellium, i am really proud of myself for everyday i am still here, fighting, loving, sharing :)
    i live in interesting times of my live… much i think, as you describe the importance of natal constellation, is, because of my natal conjunction of moon-pluto-uranus in 12th.
    and the travelling pluto is now going to trine my moon-stellium over the next years, over which, at the same time, my progressed sun is going to pass conjunct (and partly, at the same time, my progressed mercury)
    maybe you can understand my couriousity and searching. its this couriousity that helps me to understand and overcome the kind of thoughts, that lead to the place of the dark night of the soul. which is important – not just for me.

    as an example, right now i need to make the best in a very difficult working-situation. since i tried to build my lost base (financial, home, people) again, i started to work in a home for children age 7 to 17 (being taken away from their parents because of their own and their parents behaviour – abused, aggressive, lost, fierceless) – surrounded by saturnian and plutonian collegues (not the healing-transformative-form thus the controlling, fearful, pressuring-form) in a system who is trying to resist every form of change because of the fear to loose control.
    being confronted with people who use methods which i, with my naive ressourceful-self-relation-therapy-background, thought are way back behind us in the black-pedagogical-aera. children withdrawn from their parents and from every contact to the outer world. controled with hundreds of rules for each step they need to take even when they go to the toilet. contronted with verbal ful force aggression and force-aggression over their bodies sometimes (they dont beat, but strapp them for hours – a man against a 7-year-old on a cold floor to protect the child from his self-hurting-behaviour). a team of child-care-workers (absurd) which work toghether and share the we-need-to-pull-at-the-same-string in order to make good people out of this deviant young people that they are able to participate in our comunity, with lots of help from the pharma-industry, giving out strong downers like candys….

    so, thats my uncontrolable present….

    but, – maybe there is one thing that i can control or calculate ;) – the part of marriage…. :) :)
    with a little help from you, and from this link: http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php
    but there are three parts of marriage of women and men. which one, is the one?

    thank you very much for sharing your knowledge this way Alison.

    namaste, Angelika

    • Angelika, I see your confusion about the Part of Marriage. Use the first one; the idea of having more than one isn’t necessary, but you could use the second one if you ever get divorced, if you really want to, but you don’t have to. Then, you only plot one per chart. You plot yours (woman’s) in your chart and the man’s in his chart. You do not mix them and put both in one chart. Each chart gets only one Part of Marriage. I would imagine you know this, but the Parts are derived from the placement and degrees of the planets and angles in your chart; the parts are meaningless in a chart without a proper birth time; they have no accuracy whatsoever.

      • Alison, it looks like you never sleep… :) as you always answer, soon after i posted…

        i know about die importance of birthtime.
        i divorced two times – the other person never.
        here are the calculations:
        marriage: ac + cusp 7 – venus: woman 14.36 cancer – man 20.59 aries
        marriage of woman 1: ac + saturn – venus = 7.05 cancer
        marriage of man 1: ac + venus – saturn = 7.27 leo
        marriage of woman 2: ac + mars – moon = 0.51 leo
        marriage of man 2: ac + venus – sun = 11.45 virgo

        so my last question: which two ones would you consider as being of importance?

        and i want to say, that there are few astrologers which i found in internet who seem to have a real good feeling combined with knowledge and wisdom to bring a question to the point. one of my learnings these days is, to decide by myself und to “judge” a situation by myself. i would love to get a reading from you, but it squares my responsibility for this learning to be independent and to not let somebody be involved to much. i was so dependent of others, and since pluto conjunct IC i really have to learn to feel me, think by myself, that i cant pass responsibility for my live and my decisions onto others. (not onto parents, or children, or therapists, or teachers, nor astrologers…)
        but i also dont want to get knowing for free. thats why i am new in paypal. so please let me know, if my questions get so much, that you need to have a energy-exchange for your shared infos.

        thank you,
        namaste, Angelika

      • I think this is why it’s best to use the “first” Part of Marriage (for the woman, in your case), because what we’re really talking about is not the literal number of marriages, but the concept of marriage. I think it was, or is, a mistake to try to add levels of literal information (for example, let’s say you’ve had 8 marriages; generally speaking, the ancient world did not think in those terms—of repeated divorce and remarriage, since most people died long before the marriage officially ended. When people remarried, it was because they’d lost their spouse to some illness or other. Quite honestly, I am not absolutely certain this idea of “second” Part of Marriage is not a modern invention. I will have to look into the history of the Parts or Lots and see if they have been modified to suit a more modern audience.

        So I would suggest that you focus only on the “first” Part of Marriage, and just consider that to be your Part of Marriage. If you need the information on separate marriages, I would look to the synastry, rather than to the state of your Part of Marriage, although, not having seen your chart, I can’t usefully speculate. It’s possible your Part of Marriage is under a lot of stress. I just don’t know.

        I sleep on alternate Thursdays. :-)

  5. alternate thursdays… :D – i like your sense of humor, it is great!

    would conjunct jupiter (16.39 cancer) be the kind of stress you mentioned? :) – i would think jupi is/was not a “fond of the girls”. and maybe to have this planet in conjunction with part of marriage (14.36 cancer), could produce multiple marriages. its also sextile my moon-pluto-uranus-stellium (13.11, 16.33, 16.56 in virgo) and trine pieces-lilith (12.23).
    with stress i think more of squares and as you wrote opposites are the most difficult. but there is nothing like that to my part of marriage. and my natal saturn-square-venus wants to have serious and just one marriage. and i feel my moon-pluto-uranus really needs intensity and transformation which only comes with time and real deep exchange, which, for me, is not possible in an surface-exchange. i am very crabby, because of sun 28, jupiter 16, mars 7, MC 9 in cancer and i feel my venus as cancer-venus because she is in gemini but i have nothing the lots of cancer really coulours her strongly cancerian. i need to feel save to open – which also meens i need time with somebody. i love to talk which is the most gemini she has. but i dont feel any interest in venus-gemini acitivities as i found anywhere, but instead much cancer-things.
    and i also feel able to work on relationships, maybe, because of my natal saturn trine sun. my parents lived an interesting example because both of them had (my father 4 and my mother 5) planets in aquarius – sun-conj-sun and venus-conj-venus/mercury. and they builded a stable 35-years-marriage and stable home for us three children until fathers death. stability with so much unpredictible air! with a composite made of squares – a lot of fighting… (good example for the complexity of charts and combines where i see how much i dont know and, where an expierienced astrologer like you come into play to really understand….)

    whats interesting to this first part of marriage is, that, as you wrote, when i met that man, transiting-saturn was exact opposite his part of marriage (the one) which is exact opposite his natal saturn. so he also was living his saturn return and his part of marriage is trine our composite sun. (so transiting saturn at that time, was also sextile our compo-sun).
    but as i took a look at the other parts of marriage, if i would work with the second one, would find mine at 0,51 leo which is conjunct composite/combin venus (ruler of ac) and his second part of marriage at 11.45 virgo conjunct dc-ruler mars. so i see what you could mean when you say, doesnt matter which one we use, just the same for both.
    so on my one, we have the combin-saturn in conjunction.

    i am not sure, but i have in my back, that you dont use combins, only composites. is that correct? and if yes, why do you not work with the davidson?

    and, have you planed to write about transits to combin/composite?

    and, i think it would be important when progressed combin sun is changing signs? and less later transiting natal combin-ac? what orbs do you use in combins/composites?

    and what about first meeting chart? what does it tell?

    did i say “my last question” in my last post? oh my god…. i see, that i know, that i know nothing….

    have a real good week and thanks for your patience with a newling!

    angelika

    • Yes, I’m going to suggest that the time has come for you to do a lot of reading, to find out at least some of the answers to your questions, and then consult an astrologer who can sit with you over each point that you’re concerned about. This is more than I can take on right now, I’m afraid.

      I do not work with the Davison chart, no. I do synastry, composites, progressed composites (and natal, Solar Returns, Event charts). But I focus on relationship astrology most of the time.

      For you to begin, though, I believe quite strongly in reading as much as you can (in real books; not just online, which is a very haphazard approach, unfortunately). Then, if you’re really interested, take classes.

      Best wishes to you! :-)

  6. i was searching why i cant agree with my vensu as gemini-venus. she is at 29.38 gemini and with my saturn in 29.36 pieces, almost exact square, she is saturnian too. and maybe this aspect pulls her towards my 10th house, as she is in wide conjunction with mars at 6.55 cancer.
    or is it possible that i have a blind spot there?
    how do you see planets in the last degree of a sign?
    my saturn i.e. is at the edge too, but i really struggle with him as pure pieces in the 6th. and nothing aries-coloured.
    makes my theory of arguments for my venus sense, to be felt and experienced as cancerian-saturnian?

  7. i live in a place with no astrologer in reach which i feel good with.
    i had one which awoke my interest. but as deep as he was able to go, we went. and then, i tried to study and understand by myself.
    i “tried” two others which do consultation with the phone, but i didnt get my questions answered.
    the astrologers which speak german seems to work with different approaches than the english ones.
    and as english is not my mother-tongue, i need a lot of time to understand a simple topic in a conversation.
    reading is easier, because i can translate each word and sentence to understand the meaning.
    so, i dont know how to get further….
    could you recommend a book?

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